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Alright, after waiting my ten days of California DROS Jail (actually 12 days, because day 10 was the first day of their two days closed)! I went at 10 am as soon as they opened and picked it up from the local gun shop. Last night I was like Ralphie in "A Christmas Story" on Christmas Eve waiting for his Red Ryder BB gun! Not very dignified for a 63 year old [email protected]!

While I was waiting to get it out of "jail", I picked up a nice suede IWB holster, and redid my ankle holster for my 2" .38 to work for the Bersa. I got three 8 round Mec-Gar mags from Cotes (VERY nice mags), dug out what ammo I had left from when I had my CZ83, bought more 380 ammo, and ended up with 250 rounds of Prvi Partizan 95 grain FMJ, 100 rounds of Hornady Critical Defense, and 100 rounds of Federal LE 90 grain Premium Hydra-Shock ammo.

I immediately went to the local indoor range and indulged in their "Tuesday Retired LEOs shoot for $7.50" special. I proceeded to blast away with 50 rounds of the PPU from the factory 7 round (soon to be 8 round) and the Mec-Gar 8 rounders. Zero malfunctions, and it was dead-nuts on POA/POI at 10 yards (actually POI was a tad above POA at 10, so should be great at 25 yards).

I then loaded up 9 rounds of the Federal Hydra-Shocks. At 10 yards, I had about a 3-4 inch groups, off-hand from a Weaver stance, at a rate of about one shot every second. Same POI as the 95 FMJ, and zero malfunctions. :eek: At a buck a round, I didn't try any of the Critical Defense, as in my experience in different calibers (9mm, 45 ACP, and 30 M1 carbine) the polymer nose feeds like FMJ.

I LOVE THIS LITTLE WEAPON! It shoots better than my 9mm Glock, 38 Snubbie, or 45 ACP Kahr. Initially I was going to only use it as a carry weapon when I'm "dressed up" and need an ankle holster to be discreetly armed. I have a feeling that locally up here in the Sierra Foothills, it will be my EDC weapon. Down the hill in Sacto, SF, and LA basin, it will still be my Glock 19 or Kahr CW45! Pics later.
 

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Good post rangemaster. Even though I've got and carry a 9UC during this time of the year and times or places where security is of higher concern, My original BT380 is by far my favorite carry. Need to get to the range in a couple more months to start the reacclimation process.
 

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Glad that your Firestorm 380 performed so well after being paroled into your custody and with 3-4 in groups at 10 yards out of the box is great. By the way what is a Weaver stance.

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Actually I use a "modified Weaver" First stance in this article:
Alien Gear Holsters Blog - The Fundamentals of Handgun Shooting

Legs apart, strong side leg slightly back (about 45 degree angle), strong hand arm straight out, weak hand arm cupping the the pistol or grasping over the strong hand. The strong hand arm acts like a rifle stock. The modified version (which I use) you lean forward into the stance, instead of straight up and down. They call it other things now, but i'm an old school LEO firearms instructor.

More:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weaver_stance
 

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When I received my initial pistol training in '66 with the Air Force Security Police, it was referred to as the FBI Stance by our instructor. First time I heard the term Weaver Stance was several years ago while taking a CCW class. I had no idea of what was meant.
 

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It has several advantages. One is you project a narrower frontal area, your bent left arm is between your vitals and the bad guy, it is basically the same stance as rifle shooting, and you use your strong hand arm as a rifle stock.

BTW: I was an Army MP and investigator 1974 to 1977 active, 1977 to 1979 reserve, then USAF Security Police Reserve 1979 to 1981. I was civilian LEO and trainer 1977 to 2000, with a couple minor breaks due to injuries and relocations. Later I did two years as a domestic Security Contractor on a Homeland Security contract protecting dams and power houses in the mountains (2011-2013), and a couple years as a public safety officer in a gated community, essentially a private armed police force made up of all retired LEOs (2013-2015). We even worked traffic and radar and wrote tickets to the local courts. Now I am a REALTOR with Coldwell Banker!
 

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Thanks for the info and links, if I can I will print out as much as I can since I am going to Virginia tomorrow so practicing is out of the question for the next 4 days. Reading the info on the flight will pass the time for me.

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Nice! What's the difference between the Firestorm and the Thunder? I have a Thunder and replaced the OEM plastic grips with a set of the rubber ones and mine looks a lot like yours except it says "Thunder 380" on the side.
 

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IIRC, in the beginning, the Firestorm is or was a separate brand possibly owned by Metro Arms of the Philippines. Bersa made the FS380, FS9uc and the FS45uc under contract for Firestorm. There is not much difference, the trigger guard is the major difference, followed by some site differences. The Firestorm FS380 is primarily marketed for the California market. For the most part, it's like the difference between a Chevy and A GMC pickup, the name tag. How Bersa ended up the primary marketer of the FS380 is beyond my knowledge as I was underthe impression the Firestorm/Bersa contract had ended long ago. Just an added note on edit, the FS22lr was also produced by Bersa. I have one and it's a great little gun.
 

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The FireStorm .380 is the ONLY Bersa firearm on the CA approved list.
 

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Thanks, but..., but I wanted flat bottom, almost flush with the bottom of the grip for use in my ankle holster. That would stich out worse than the finger rest!
 

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I think there are only half a dozen 380s on the approved list: Kahr 380, Beretta 380, FireStorm, Ruger LC380, and a couple others. CAL DOJ's site is down (as usual), so I could not check. I find it interesting that the ONLY site that tells Californians what handguns they can legally buy, is down and "Unavailable" on such a regular basis. CalGuns foundations forum, the largest California forum with information for Californians for their legal rights, suffered a cyber attack a couple months ago, and was off-line about 10 days before they could get it back up. I am not a cynic (even though I am a retired California cop), nor am I a conspiracy theory nut. I just find it rather coincidental, though....

State Senator (former) Leland Yee was the most virulent anti gun member of California's legislature, and author of many of California's Draconian anti firearms laws. He was arrested a year or so ago by the FBI for corruption and firearms trafficking with Asian gangs!
 

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Hope you have a CCW. Carrying in CA is very risky.
 

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Hope you have a CCW. Carrying in CA is very risky.
Thanks, Yep I do. i am a retired California Deputy Sheriff. I even qualify annually for my HR218 nationwide CCW privilege.

Speaking of CCW, I have been carrying either my Glock 19 or Kahr CW45 for EDC, and only using the Taurus 38 for ankle holster use. I got the FireStorm to replace the 5 shot .38 with a 9 shot .380. I like the Bersa so much I now carry it about 95% of the time, saving the Glock for forays into major metro areas, and the Kahr 45 for hiking up in the mountains in bear areas.
 

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Here's the target. It is on an 8 1/2 x 11 sheet of paper. The first shot was the high one, and was on double action. There is one that is tight group of 3 shots just right and high of center, with a double hole just above it. This thing is freaking amazing! I was using a Mec-Gar 8 round magazine, and Federal Premium LE Hydra-Shock 90 grain JHP ammo. Hold was POI dead on center hold, so POI was a little high at 10 yards.

 

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Great shooting there. No wasted shots.

Tony
 
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