Just traded an Eotech 512.A65 for a Bersa Thunder 380 silver with an additional black slide, 50 rounds of jacketed hollow point rounds, extra wood grips, 2 holsters, and 2 magazines....feel it was a pretty good trade =) I am an AK47 kinda guy and had sold my last AR platform weapon and the Eotech sucks on AKs imo versus, say, an Aimpoint micro. Anyways, I am totally looking forward to taking the new bersa out for a spin at the gun range this weekend! saw the bersa on budsgunshop for around $300 and the eotech is around $350 used, and with all the stuff thrown in, ill trade an optic for a gun any day of the week lol