[Lex]

I recently purchased a Bersa "FireStorm" .380. After much range time I could not be happier with it. To that extent of product satisfaction, I tried recently to purchase the Bersa Thunder 9mm. Sadly, that firearm is not on the California "approved list". In fact, according to the Bersa customer service online representative the "FireStorm" is the only Bersa firearm that does meet those CA state requirements. The rep. said Bersa would have to "re-tool", etc. I say Bersa won't pay the $ ransom CA is probably requiring to get on the approved list.

So much for attempted consumer brand loyalty.

 

[9UC]

Unfortunately that left wing policy has existed in California for a long time. Taking liberty with Horace Greely's quote, Go east young man, go east. While living in 'Vegas until moving to Texas a few months ago, I had heard that there were a number of places on the "Right" side of the CA/NA border that specialized in storing non California legal guns. ou might want to check that out.

 

[Tony1990]

Hi Lex, please enlighten me as to why the Bersa Thunder 9mm is not on the CA approved list? Surely the Bersa Thunder 9mm has built in safety features. Unfortunately my 9mm is not a Bersa but I never look a gift horse in the mouth.

 

[bersastud]

Because Bersa will not pay or supply CA with guns to test. Gong to be many more. Because no one going to have their lastest BS with the marking the round ID . This is how CA is going to ban guns At least new ones.

MD has spent 15 million on the keeping the fired cashing that comes with new guns . Has never solved 1st crime. They are closing it down and have more than 300,000 casings to dispose of .

 

[Lex]

Please see comment from bersastud That's the control CA has over manufactures. Many refuse to be dictated to by a state government and simply pass on product sales. Unfortunately for Bersa, CA is a huge market filled with missed sales opportunities. Unfortunately for me I want to further support Bersa by purchasing theirThunder 9mm but can't. I'll have to make do with their FireStorm .380 or relocate to a gun owner friendly state.

 

[9UC]

................Unfortunately for Bersa, CA is a huge market filled with missed sales opportunities. Unfortunately for me I want to further support Bersa by purchasing theirThunder 9mm but can't. I'll have to make do with their FireStorm .380 or relocate to a gun owner friendly state.

I don't really think that is much of a concern for Bersa as they generally sell very quickly what they ship to the United States rather quickly.

 

[N6CRV]

This might be off topic. What happens if you were to get one from out of state then come back to Ca. ? Moved from there is 1980 so did not run into much of the having to be on the approved list. Say if I was to move back, do I have to give up my Guns? By the way would NEVER move back.
Thanks!

 

[Lex]

I don't think you can just drive from So. CA to either Arizona or Nevada and purchase a gun and drive right back to CA. That would be trafficking. Some proof of state residency would I'm sure be required to purchase as would having the gun properly registered by the selling dealer in accordance to state's requirements.

 

[Lex]

There was a time when CA was the 7th largest economy in the world. Bersa has just one of their products on the CA approved list. Obviously that's more than enough for them.

 

[imarangemaster]

You can move into the state with any non-approved pistol (though the capacity of your mags must be 10 rounds or less). You are supposed to do a voluntary registration, though. You can sell a non approved pistol to someone else, through a dealer, too. Approved list is only on new guns for sale, or old guns brought into the state by dealers. private party transfers are exempt, though recorded. I left California for 4 years, and brought back a CZ 82 and a CZ83. The 83 is approved, the 82 is not. NO 9x18 firearms are approved. We have a very small list of approved pistols, which makes for limited choices. I looked for a used FEG SMC for private party, nor could I find a Walther PPK or PP. SUCKS!