[cgmariotti]

hi all, I apologize for my English but I hope it is quite understandable. I see in the forum is that in America they love the Bersa .380 being a defensive weapon underpowered and do not understand why not choose a much more powerful 9mm with the same caliber

 

[Keith4001r]

Your English is just fine, you made your point very clearly. The Bersa .380 in all it's forms are reliable, affordable and reasonably priced. Ballistically, the .380 is somewhat inferior to the 9mm, but not a huge difference, IMHO.

I carry the Bersa UC 9mm Pro everywhere I go. Really like the gun. But I also have a .380 Thunder as backup!

 

[Tony1990]

It has to do with what a person can handle. I have a Ruger 357 but prefer a Bersa 380 since at 20 feet with my Bersa 380 all my shot are grouped tighter and centered on target. With the Ruger 357 I am not as good.

 

[cgmariotti]

Your English is just fine, you made your point very clearly. The Bersa .380 in all it's forms are reliable, affordable and reasonably priced. Ballistically, the .380 is somewhat inferior to the 9mm, but not a huge difference, IMHO.

I carry the Bersa UC 9mm Pro everywhere I go. Really like the gun. But I also have a .380 Thunder as backup!

actually you're right it is much more comfortable for porting one 380 about the same size and weight as a .22 and virtually no recoil. whether your state allows porting to individuals is a good alternative in my city the porting is prohibited
anyway whenever I travel away from home is in my car gives me the sense of security but has not ever needed to use

 

[cgmariotti]

It has to do with what a person can handle. I have a Ruger 357 but prefer a Bersa 380 since at 20 feet with my Bersa 380 all my shot are grouped tighter and centered on target. With the Ruger 357 I am not as good.

If you're right it is more portable and lighter than a 9mm, but it really is sought because obviously you can carry
the fact that in my country the porting is prohibited so this caliber is virtually ignored by most users, they prefer 9mm or .40 what happens to the .40 ammo is very expensive to practice
in my case with a 9mm ammunition box costs $ 25 dollars to $ 40- dollars of .40

 

[Keith4001r]

actually you're right it is much more comfortable for porting one 380 about the same size and weight as a .22 and virtually no recoil. whether your state allows porting to individuals is a good alternative in my city the porting is prohibited
anyway whenever I travel away from home is in my car gives me the sense of security but has not ever needed to use

Not sure what you mean by "porting". Is that carrying concealed?

I carry whenever I can. Security is my own responsibility. I have never had to make use of it, thank God.

 

[cgmariotti]

porting is to bring loaded gun everywhere logically hidden, for self defense or so as it would take a police detective

apology and you comment that English is a bit difficult for me as it is written in Spanish grammatically different and some words are different in different Spanish speaking countries

 

[Keltyke]

Carry what you shoot best. Some 9mm guns comparable to the Bersa in size have a LOT more recoil. Modern .380 ammo is not what it once was. 380 is a viable defensive round, PROVIDED you can hit what you aim at. Shot placement is King. I've carried a Bersa Thunder .380 at times and it didn't worry me at all.

You're either discussng transporting - moving a gun from one place to another, or printing - the outline of the gun showing under the concealing clothing. In some states, this is ok, in some it's not. Or perhaps you're referring to concealed or open carrying of a handgun. Help me out here...

 

[Keith4001r]

Keltyke, you bring up some good possibilities... I wonder if Buenos Aires is a concealed only city? In which case, printing would not be good...

 

[Keltyke]

Keltyke, you bring up some good possibilities... I wonder if Buenos Aires is a concealed only city? In which case, printing would not be good...

I'm just not understanding what he's trying to say there.

 

[gbusmech]

hi all, I apologize for my English but I hope it is quite understandable. I see in the forum is that in America they love the Bersa .380 being a defensive weapon underpowered and do not understand why not choose a much more powerful 9mm with the same caliber

I carry a small .380 pistol or .38 revolver in the summer because it is easier to conceal when wearing just a t-shirt and jeans/shorts but I carry a .45 in cooler weather because they cover up nicely under a coat or jacket....

 

[cgmariotti]

Carry what you shoot best. Some 9mm guns comparable to the Bersa in size have a LOT more recoil. Modern .380 ammo is not what it once was. 380 is a viable defensive round, PROVIDED you can hit what you aim at. Shot placement is King. I've carried a Bersa Thunder .380 at times and it didn't worry me at all.

You're either discussng transporting - moving a gun from one place to another, or printing - the outline of the gun showing under the concealing clothing. In some states, this is ok, in some it's not. Or perhaps you're referring to concealed or open carrying of a handgun. Help me out here...

hello excuse me for not answering, just graduating from deserved summer vacation and I'm just reading 380 is actually a lot easier to carry under clothing
for now I will enjoy my new Thunder Pro 9mm I just ocmprar with two magazines and 147 grain ammo
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[bersastud]

The 380 isn't smaller than the 9mm. Both shoot the same diameter bullet just the 380 shoots a lighter bullet. I carry Corbon DPX HP in my 380's Out of Bersa approx 1050FPS Thats approx 700MPH I will tell you right now . If you shoot a Bad Guy with 380 then a 9mm. He will not be able to tell the difference. Bullets don't knock you down or spin you around They make a hole . With todays modren Hollow Point ammo we have in USA The difference between 9mm, 40, and 45 is very little .

Its really about shot placement , hit right spot. Bad guy goes down. Other wise your just pokeing holes and he has to bleed out

 

[cgmariotti]

actually have reason it is easier to transport and very discreet but although it has the same diameter and weight loads are somewhat different.
the 380 supports up to 95 grains bulet and a speed of 955 feet / second
in my case bulet parabrllum flat rate of 145 grains and 1345 f / s
are 40% faster and 60% more mass power of damage is approximately 50% more, hollow bullet feature that are more effective but unfortunately are prohibited in Argentina
other data for the 380 is that they are considerably lighter and easier to maneuver
anyway my 9 mm parabellum love this weapon besides feel very safe when I have about

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[Tony1990]

That is one great looking BT9mm weapon you have there.

 

[cgmariotti]

thanks tony I have it a few days ago, took 45 days to get the papers but now it is mine, I hope to try it in the shooting range this weekend

 

[bersastud]

Trouble with 9mm FMJ ammo is Its known to shoot clean thru people . That not good either , as all that engery you have , most just goes on down range after passing thru target . 9mm has always had this problem . Even are military today is complaining about this .

 

[cgmariotti]

have reason why the police around the world are taking 40 high firepower capable of drilling a windshield but not to kill 3 people more After crossing the target

 

[robhic]

... hollow bullet feature that are more effective but unfortunately are prohibited in Argentina

Speaking of bullets where hollow point aren't allowed. Buffalo Bore makes a 100gr +P, round nose, hard cast lead bullet that gives 24" (!!!) of penetration. The +P hollow points from same company are in 85gr to 95gr and only give 10-12 inches of penetration.

True, the wound cavity is larger but the hard cast lead would be better in a smaller round such as .380 to penetrate clothing, upraised hand, arm, etc. I don't think over-penetration is a problem in .380. That great looking 9mm in the picture might not be such a good idea.

Also, flat nose bullets are a great alternative if hollow point isn't allowed. Something to think about....

 

[Gretschguy]

I chose the .380 as just one of my "tools". It is the lightest hitting round that I use for personal defence. I live in a warm area and light clothing is the normal attire for 6 or 7 months of the year. The small size of the Bersa BT380 allows me to keep my sidearm concealed as per law when wearing shorts and a T-shirt, normal summer wear around here.
During the chillier months, I upgrade to a 9mm pistol because I may need to penetrate a couple of shirts and a sweater, sweat shirt or light jacket. My sidearm is covered by more layers of clothing, so it is easier for me to hide.
If I lived in a area where it snowed, I'd opt for an even heavier hitting sidearm because of the thick layers of clothing that would need penetration.